Real Talk- Part 1

Several months ago I threatened to start recording phone calls between Gary Kleiban and myself. The words were too good to disappear without ever being heard by anyone else. And honestly, the idea of recording was actually well received by Gary and I've shamefully missed out on capturing some great conversations between him and I. 

Thankfully, I finally decided to hit the big red button and record something. And I am glad I did.

This particular conversation included Kephern Fuller following his most recent trip to Europe. If you're wondering what Kephern was up to in Europe... start here.

If you're already in the know, or too anxious and want to eat this raw... scroll just a bit more and press play to listen to part 1 of a candid conversation between Kephern Fuller, Gary Kleiban, and I.